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SP1 vs SP2 [message #217749] Tue, 13 July 2010 21:39 Go to next message
Gazk is currently offline Gazk  UNITED KINGDOM
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I've been doing a bit of reading up on these two bikes, maybe looking to buy in the next year or so.

Is there a great deal of difference between these two bikes?

What I've been able to find out is that the SP2 has a stiffer frame and uprated suspension and about 5nhp more.

Both of them, looks wise, look almost identical to the untrained eye. Anyone ridden both of these bikes to be able to compare them?

And would you recommend them. I do quite a lot of riding, occasional commute, sunday blasts, long rides (fairly often 300 mile journeys through wales, to scotland etc from near birmingham).

Basically, are these bikes as good as they look and sound?
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217750 is a reply to message #217749] Tue, 13 July 2010 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SP2 Riley is currently offline SP2 Riley  UNITED KINGDOM
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300 mile on an sp2 Laugh you like pain Twisted Evil

maybe ok as your young Wink

the sp2 is a better road bike Thumbs Up
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217757 is a reply to message #217750] Tue, 13 July 2010 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gazk is currently offline Gazk  UNITED KINGDOM
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SP2 Riley wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 22:23
300 mile on an sp2 Laugh you like pain Twisted Evil

maybe ok as your young Wink


I can take it (as long as I stop every 100miles or so to rest my back side).

Did 300 miles up to scotland with my missus on the back on my cbr600, I would imagine the sp1/2 would be quite different though (mainly because I wouldn't have my missus on the back Wink )
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217760 is a reply to message #217757] Tue, 13 July 2010 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SPAL is currently offline SPAL  UNITED KINGDOM
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Hi Gazk,

Should be good on the twisty stuff but wouldn't fancy hours of Mway riding.

Main drawback would be you'd have to plan your fuel stops cause tank range (SP1) is 85/95 tops, thats what I noticed when I got my cbr (600fv) I don't worry so much about running out of fuel.

SPal Laugh Cool
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217765 is a reply to message #217760] Wed, 14 July 2010 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gazk is currently offline Gazk  UNITED KINGDOM
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Fair enough SPAL. I don't cherish motorway riding at all to be honest, and for long motorway rides I'll use my nighthawk. It's either that or, get the nighthawk back together and sell it and keep the cbr600 as well lol.. hmmm....
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217801 is a reply to message #217760] Wed, 14 July 2010 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SPAL wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 23:34
Hi Gazk,

Should be good on the twisty stuff but wouldn't fancy hours of Mway riding.

Main drawback would be you'd have to plan your fuel stops cause tank range (SP1) is 85/95 tops, thats what I noticed when I got my cbr (600fv) I don't worry so much about running out of fuel.

SPal Laugh Cool

85/95 between fills? eek eek Flipping eck, I've never got it down that low yet, albeit mines is an SP2, but wouldn't have thought there was that much difference!!! I average around 115 - 125 till the light comes on, then there's probably another 20 miles or so left (guess)......& that isn't hanging around either Wink
Agree on m/way riding tho, & as for twisties, well so long as they're not cart tracks (the SP prefers smooth tarmac) it'll be fine Grin

Differences? Kakugo will probably be along shortly with a list as his knowledge of most things Honda know no bounds Grin but in the meantime;-

As I understand it the frame of the SP2 is NOT as stiff as the SP1.....Colin Edwards raced the SP1 with an engine mount bolt missing for 'more feel'.
The swing arm is bigger & slightly longer.
Suspension got revised internals to soften it off slightly.
The fuel injection was modified to make for a less on off throttle.....although it still is a little.
Engine made slightly more power.

Aparently the changes made the SP2 slightly faster & an easier road bike.
I haven't ridden the SP1 so can only comment on the SP2.
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217819 is a reply to message #217801] Thu, 15 July 2010 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gazk is currently offline Gazk  UNITED KINGDOM
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No worries, I appreciate your thoughts.

Are they still as good for reliability as other models? Also, in terms of servicing and problem areas, is there anything to be aware of or specifically look out for? I haven't found anything saying very much bad about these bikes. But nice to be aware of such things before buying.

Cheers guys
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217867 is a reply to message #217749] Thu, 15 July 2010 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well mine's never missed a beat & I've heard of bikes in the US doing over 100k miles without any problems, so I guess they could be considered reliable Grin
As for servicing, it's the same as other Honda's.....small at 4k miles, big at 8k miles with valve clearances at 16k miles.
As the engine runs quite hot, & gets hot quick in traffic, I personally like to make sure the oil changes are done at the recommended intervals, but can be earlier as I'll do it once a year regardless.
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217881 is a reply to message #217867] Thu, 15 July 2010 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Duely noted. Well the prospect of having an SP1/2 is sounding more and more likely (and exciting).

I think my girlfriend wants my CBR600 as well so that means I won't have to technically let her go (as such) Grin
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217883 is a reply to message #217881] Thu, 15 July 2010 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gazk wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 20:06
Duely noted. Well the prospect of having an SP1/2 is sounding more and more likely (and exciting).

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I think my girlfriend wants my CBR600 as well so that means I won't have to technically let her go (as such) Grin

What, the girlfriend or the bike? Laugh



Get your coat
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217884 is a reply to message #217883] Thu, 15 July 2010 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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VTRsp2 wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 20:30
Gazk wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 20:06
Duely noted. Well the prospect of having an SP1/2 is sounding more and more likely (and exciting).

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I think my girlfriend wants my CBR600 as well so that means I won't have to technically let her go (as such) Grin

What, the girlfriend or the bike? Laugh



Get your coat


hmm.. don't tempt me Tongue
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217920 is a reply to message #217884] Fri, 16 July 2010 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gazk,

One word of warning, don't be tempted to buy crash bungs if you do get one as the chances of front engine bolt (which you remove to fit bungs) being siezed solid is Werry werry high.....

SPal.

FS: 1 set of R&G Crash bungs, never fitted. Laugh
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217922 is a reply to message #217920] Fri, 16 July 2010 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SPAL wrote on Fri, 16 July 2010 14:49
Hi Gazk,

One word of warning, don't be tempted to buy crash bungs if you do get one as the chances of front engine bolt (which you remove to fit bungs) being siezed solid is Werry werry high.....

SPal.

FS: 1 set of R&G Crash bungs, never fitted. Laugh


HAHA! fair enough mate, I'll look out for that Tongue
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #217973 is a reply to message #217749] Sat, 17 July 2010 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ive got some pretty similar LSL crash bungs! wonder how many people have drilled their fairings in readyness Wall
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #218256 is a reply to message #217973] Mon, 19 July 2010 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like something I'd do.... wonder how I managed not to

SPal Laugh
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #218267 is a reply to message #218256] Mon, 19 July 2010 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve p is currently offline steve p  UNITED KINGDOM
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common sense at last there are some right freaks on the other thread! seriously tho i have read that crash bungs can do more harm than good ie on occasions causing the bike to flip if they dig in. hard one to call when you know the price of rads. iv decided to leave mine off and throw myself under the bike if it happens.
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #218283 is a reply to message #218267] Mon, 19 July 2010 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Steve,

Most of my first posts revolved around trying to get the front engine mount bolt out of my SP1.

Now theyve deteriated into ripping blades apart and riding around in high heels, Laugh

I would have fitted them but for the grief of geting the bolt out and when the blades finished I WILL fit them.

so there.

(woW what a man) I am

SPal eek
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Re: SP1 vs SP2 [message #218313 is a reply to message #218283] Tue, 20 July 2010 07:49 Go to previous message
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i was starting to think this was a middle aged "grooming" site for motorcyclists Grin i actually thought of cutting the bungs down and sticking them onto the fairing then you could mount them above the writing! Thumb Down
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